Trunk Release Cable Modifications for the Honda Pacific Coast PC800 Motorcycle

The trunk release cable on the Honda Pacific Coast PC800 can break after many years of use. Below I document one option to plan ahead for the eventual cable break.  There is also information on an automatic trunk latch release system.  Both the emergency trunk latch release photos and the automatic trunk latch release system come courtesy of Seth S. who is a long-time active member on the IPCRC Yahoo! group.

Emergency Trunk Latch Release

After a fun day of riding your PC800, you get home, open up the fuel door, grab the trunk release handle, and nothing happens!  The cable has broken inside the trunk latch cable release assembly.  Your gear is now stuck inside the Pacific Coast’s trunk.  If you picked up groceries, your ice cream is now melting.

If you find yourself at this point and haven’t planned ahead, there are a couple options depending on where the cable assembly broke.  There are two latches on our trunks including one at the top of the trunk and one in the back of the trunk.  Depending on where the cable broke, you have some different options.

Step 1: Look for the Cable at the Release Lever

If you’re lucky, the cable has broken at the release lever end.  There likely is a little bit of cable still sticking out of the cable housing.  Get a pair of needle nose pliers and pull on the end of the cable.  The latches in the trunk will likely unlatch and you can open the trunk.  Now make sure you don’t close the trunk until you follow some of the steps down below for “future-proofing” your trunk.

Step 2: Remove the Passenger Seat and Look for the Cable

If the cable broke somewhere that you can’t access it from the release lever, you need to remove the passenger seat.  You need a 6mm allen key to remove the bolts on both sides of the passenger seat.  Those bolts can be rusted in place and might take a lot of effort to remove.  The seat can also be really jammed into place if this is the first time you’ve removed it.

Under the seat you’ll find the cable assembly.  Using a small wrench (I think a 12mm but I haven’t double checked that.  It could be a 14 mm), you can open up the cable assembly and try to actuate the cable from there using a pair of needle nose pliers.  Again, if it opens the two latches, immediately follow the below instructions for “future-proofing” your trunk.

Step 3: Actuate the Upper Latch While Also Using the Cable

Occasionally the cable to the upper latch will break while the lower latch cable is still intact.  Consider yourself lucky that you don’t need to go to the next step!  At this point, you need to open up the cable assembly on the end that leads to the lower latch at the bottom of the trunk.  Pull the cable at the same time as you manually actuate the upper trunk latch.  You might want to practice how you’ll open the upper trunk latch — I have found that a small flat head screwdriver is a useful tool to do this.  As soon as you have your trunk open, follow the below instructions for “future-proofing” your trunk.

Step 4: Manually Actuating the Lower Latch

If you’ve made it here, I’m sorry for you.  Likely your trunk release cable has broken down near the lower trunk latch.  This is the second worst type of failure (worst is the actual latch failing — I’ve NEVER heard of one of the latches failing though).  You are going to need to try and fish down into the depths of the upper trunk cover to find the lower trunk release latch.  You’ll need a small arm and a lot of dexterity to make it work.  I have heard of one or two people who have successfully done it after many hours of work and cursing.  Good luck.

A few folks have gotten so frustrated that they’ve taken a knife to their plastic tupperwear and cut a hole where the lower latch is located to get to it.  If you choose this option, you’ll have to repair the plastic or replace it afterward.  Perhaps a strategically-placed bumper sticker would be a good option.

Whatever you choose, you’ll want to immediately follow the “future-proofing” information below.

Options for “Future-Proofing” a Honda Pacific Coast’s Trunk

There are two options that I know of to help ensure that you will ALWAYS be able to get into your trunk regardless of if the trunk release cable breaks.

Option 1: Remove the Lower Trunk Release Latch Striker

The easiest thing to do is to remove the lower trunk release latch striker.  This is the thing that the latch engages with to hold the trunk closed.  In order to do this, you need to remove the rear brake and turn signal lights assembly.  Then there are a couple bolts that you remove and the striker comes out.  The downside to this approach is that the trunk is a little less secure while you’re riding.  You might notice a little bit of flutter in the plastics of the trunk but likely it won’t be a problem.  Several PCers run their bikes this way.

Now, if you suffer a trunk release cable failure, all you have to do is pop the passenger seat off and actuate the upper trunk release latch.  Be sure to keep a 6mm allen wrench handy (outside of the trunk!) so that you can get into your trunk if you have a problem.

Option 2: Install an Emergency Lower Trunk Latch Release Cable

If you’re willing to do a little more work, you can install a secondary cable or rope to manually actuate your lower trunk release cable.  To do this, you need to remove the trunk tail cowl (the “duck bill” thing on the back of the trunk).  There are a bunch of self-tapping screws inside the trunk that need to be removed in order to remove the tail cowl.  Now the entire lower trunk release latch assembly will be exposed.

You can now install either a rope or a cable to manually actuate the lower trunk latch.  Seth S. sent me some photos (below) that show how he installed a pulley and a stainless steel aircraft cable to make his emergency trunk release look very professional.

This is the lower pulley assembly that Seth S. installed on his PC800. The cable is attached to the lower latch so that if the stock trunk release cable breaks, he can still get into his trunk.

 

Automatic Trunk Opening for the Honda Pacific Coast PC800

Seth S. also has developed a wonderful electric latch release setup for his Honda Pacific Coast.  If you have a little mechanical and electrical knowledge, this might be a project that you want to do in order to really take your PC800 to the next level of coolness.

This is the lower trunk latch electric actuator that Seth S. mounted in his trunk tail cowl. The think cable behind the electric actuator is the emergency trunk release cable.
This is where the electric actuator for the lower trunk release latch goes. The cable circles around the pulley and goes to the latch. Note that the emergency trunk release cable is connected above the pulley. Also note that he used a small wire tie to make sure the cable doesn’t skip off the pulley when the stock trunk release cable is used.
This is the rear view of the entire lower electric actuator assembly. Also note that the electric actuator for the upper trunk release latch is shown on the left side. It’s quite the clever design.

 

This is looking from the top down. You can see the emergency trunk latch release cable on the left side.
Here is a close-up of how the upper trunk latch actuator is mounted to the trunk cowl frame.
Here is a close-up of the upper pulley assembly to get the upper trunk electric latch actuator to interface with the upper latch assembly.
Here’s another view of the upper pulley assembly.

Above is a video of the three different ways of how Seth S. can now open his trunk.  First, he opens the trunk with the stock release latch located under the fuel door.  Second, he opens using the emergency release cable and manually actuating the upper latch.  Third, he uses the electric actuators to open the trunk.

Thanks again to Seth S. for agreeing to let me post these photos on my website.  All credit goes to him for these awesome photos and his innovative approach to opening our PC800 trunks!


Recently someone pointed me to this neat electric trunk release mechanism that someone in Japan made. It is another good option to upgrade your PC’s trunk release system.

Honda Pacific Coast PC800 Front Wheel Bearing Failure

I suffered a nearly catastrophic wheel bearing failure on the front wheel on my Honda Pacific Coast on the way back from visiting my grandmother in Fresno.

I managed to ride it home but did some real damage to a few of the consumable parts in the front wheel assembly, such as this spacer collar.

The brake pads didn’t fare very well, either.

The caliper took a little damage but is still usable.

Tire Options for the Honda Pacific Coast PC800 Motorcycle

When the Honda Pacific Coast was originally released in 1989, the bikes came standard with Dunlop K177 tires which later were upgraded to Dunlop K555 tires.  The OEM tire size is 120/80-17 front and 140/80-15 rear.  The other main tire that people used for many years is the Metzeler ME880.  While many people continue to use both the Dunlop and Metzeler tire options, many PCers have begun experimenting with other tires with good success.  This post reviews tire options for the Honda Pacific Coast.

Do Your Own Research — Don’t Rely on Me

Before you get too far into this post, I want to make absolutely clear that I am not a professional engineer nor am I a motorcycle tire subject matter expert. I am quite literally a guy who likes the Honda Pacific Coast PC800 motorcycle and enjoys helping compile information that the PC800 community has learned over the years.

The information collected below has been reported to me by PC800 riders over more than a decade. I am only compiling the information in one place. I am not recommending anything in particular. I give my untrained opinion in a few places but any statements I make should not be treated as authoritative in any way.

Before you choose a tire for your bike, I strongly suggest you do research online and talk to your local motorcycle shop about appropriate tire options and the trade-offs involved. The Adventure Rider Radio Podcast has a good episode about motorcycle tires that is likely worth your time to listen to. For instance, while there is a large “dark side” community that uses car tires on motorcycles, there is some very good and growing evidence that this isn’t such a great idea. There are some other things to consider as well which that podcast mentions that I had never heard of before.

Bottom line: I take no liability for what you do or don’t do to your bike. This is just a collection of people’s experiences with their motorcycles. In the immortal words of a friend, “don’t be an idiot in the park” or in other words it’s your own fault if you do something or don’t do something based on whatever I have on my website. Use your own judgement and talk to experts before you make a decision.

What Tires I Run

I still run Metzeler ME880 tires on my bike because I like them and, in spite of chunking issues I had with my last two sets, I find them to be good tires. However, it sounds like the ME880 might be being phased out and the ME888 tires will be the new Metzeler product that is rated for our Honda Pacific Coasts. Such is life with an oddball bike that doesn’t share a very common tire with other bikes.

I have ridden on Dunlop tires and found them to be a little squirrley on certain road surfaces. They also weren’t great, in my opinion, in the rain. But on the right road surfaces, they felt like they were glued to the road, especially in corners.

I rode on a “dark side” bike for a few miles to see what all of the hubbub I kept reading online was about. I found the experience to be pleasant and did not encounter any issues with cornering or any other problems that some have reported. While I was dark side-curious for some time, I have never put a car tire on my bike and have decided that even though it might save a little money, it isn’t worth it to me to have a non-motorcycle tire that’s not approved for what I am doing on my motorcycle.

The other tires you’ll find below I have not personally tried. Others have tried them though which is why they’re on the list. Someone with a PC800 at some point put that tire on their bike and found it decent enough to mention it on the iPCRC or the Facebook group or they emailed me directly. Both are outstanding resources for PC800 riders and a good place to ask tire-related questions.

Good tires are key to having a good ride. I had a fresh set of rubber on when I went over Tioga Pass in California in 2012.

A Note on 1989 Bikes and Rear Tire Size

As many of you probably already know, the 1989 model year of the Honda Pacific Coast has a smaller trunk liner and fender well than the later model years.  Quite a few of these bikes suffered from the fender liner being eaten by the tire.  My bike has a nice fiberglass patch on the trunk liner from where that happened earlier in its life.  For this reason, it is important that 1989 bikes don’t use a tire wider than 140mm (or a higher aspect ratio — that’s the second number in the tire code.  See this website for more information.) without really closely examining the fit.  Later model years can likely get away with a wider tire width although it’s still a little iffy at times.

A Note on Tire Diameter, the Rear Swingarm, and the Front Fender Plastics

It is worthwhile to note that the height of your tires does matter with the PC800.  If you have a tire that has a larger aspect ratio (the second number in the tire code — for instance, 120/80-17 indicates the aspect ratio is 80% of the tire’s width measured at the widest point which in this case is 120mm, meaning the tire is 96mm high from the bottom of the tire to the top as measured on one side — see this website for more details) or a larger width (the first number) than what is OEM recommended, the tire can end up being larger to the point where it may come into contact with the rear swingarm or the front fender plastics.  Neither situation is very desirable.  If you end up with a tire that is barely making contact (check especially after a ride because it isn’t always evident when you have the bike parked), reducing air pressure in the tire by 2-3PSI might help the situation.

A Note on Using Non-OEM-Recommended Tires

Any activity involving motorcycles carries a degree of risk with it.  Moving away from OEM-recommended tires carries potentially more risk than sticking with the OEM recommendations.  Especially those considering running tires in non-standard orientations (backwards from the indicated arrow), non-standard positions (a rear tire on the front), or of non-standard types (car tires), this is all a bit experimental.  While many PCers have many thousands of miles logged on many non-OEM-recommended tires, your mileage and experience may vary.  It’s your choice what tire you use.  The information on this page is only a compilation of what I have observed other PC800 riders use.

A Note on Tire Age Codes

Regardless of what tires you choose, make sure to check the tire age codes.  Depending on who you ask, a tire shouldn’t be used more than three to five years after when it was manufactured.  This is due to the rubber compounds that make the tire “sticky” and stick to the road becoming stiff and more slippery with age.  I have personally experienced this on another bike I used to own where I was going around a corner when the rear end started to wash out.  I saved the bike and rode home where I looked at the tire and discovered that the tire had become slick and hard, and that the tire was quite old.

A typical tire date code looks like this: DOT EUAB C54 2110

If your tire has a three digit code rather than a four digit code at the end of that string of letters and numbers, THROW THAT TIRE AWAY because it was produced prior to the year 2000 and it is UNSAFE to ride.

The numbers we care about are the last four in the sequence.  In the example above, that is 2110.  The first two numbers indicate which week the tire was manufactured.  In this case, it was the 21st week of the year.  The second two numbers indicate the year.  In this case, 2010.  This tire is too old to keep riding and should be replaced.

This tire date code indicates the tire was made on the 9th week of 2000. That’s an old tire! Time to replace it.  Remember: look at the last four numbers to determine the date.

Tire Options

Tire CombinationManufacturer (Front/Rear)Model/Size(Front/Rear)Bias or Radial?Recommended Inflation Pressure (Front/Rear)Expected MileageOther Notes
OEM From the Factory and Later OEM Recommendations
“Dancing Dunlops”DunlopK555 120/80-17Bias5000-9000 MilesThese tires were what came on the PC800 straight from the factory. While they had a good reputation for the first 10 or 20 years of PC800s being on the road, a manufacturing shift to Indonesia caused a marked decrease in mileage. Dunlop tread pattern has a tendancy to make a PC800 wander as it goes down the road which some riders can feel unnerved by. I have heard it described as if the bike dances to its own tune sometimes.
DunlopK555 140/80-15Bias5000-9000 Miles
“Moaning Metzelers”MetzelerME880 Marathon 120/80-17Bias36-40PSI9000-15000 MilesMany people have loved Metzeler tires on the PC for many years. They perform well in the rain and don’t wander as much as the Dunlop tires. However, they have earned the nickname “moaning Metzelers” because they make a moaning sound when cornering. A production change to Brazil coincided with a “chunking” problem where big chunks of rubber can go missing (especially on the rear tire) after about 5,000 to 8,000 miles of riding. While several PCers have tried to engage Metzeler about the problem, no solution has been found. Be especially vigilent with Metzeler tires for cracks forming in between the tread on the rear tire.
MetzelerME880 Marathon 140/80-15Bias38-42PSI9000-15000 Miles
Other Motorcycle Tire Options
Pirelli ShoesPirelliCorsa II 120/80-17RadialThis is a new combination being tested by Chris H. on the PC800 Facebook group. He has used the Diablo Rosso tire on his Honda Magna for a number of years with good results and is now trying it on the PC. Note that it is narrower than a stock PC tire.
PirelliPirelli Diablo Rosso 140/70-15Radial
Michelin CommandersMichelinMichelin Commander II – 120/80 B17 76HBias36PSINote that the rear tire WILL NOT WORK on a 1989 model year bike unless you have changed out the trunk liner for a later model year liner.
MichelinMichelin Commander II – 140/90 B15 76HBias38PSI
Battleaxe Rear on the FrontBridgestoneBattleaxe BT45 – 120/80 r17Bias23,000+ milesNote that this is normally a rear tire but many PCers run it on the front. People used to run these tires in reverse but more recently, people have been running them in the “correct” orientation.
ExcedraBridgestoneExcedra 120/80 r17Bias36PSIUnknownGary R. on the Facebook group is using this tire with a Metzeler on the rear.
KendaKendaChallenger K657 – 130/90 r17Bias8,000+ milesNote that this is normally a rear tire but a few PCers run it on the front. Usually it’s run in the direction indicated by the arrow on the tire (not the reverse way).
KendaKendaKruz K673 – 140/80 r17BiasUnknownMalcom C. uses this tire on the front of his bike.
ShinkoShinko230 Tourmaster – 140/90 r15Bias10,000+UnknownBob D. reports: I put a Shinko 230 Tour Master rear tire on my 1998 PC800 about 10,000 miles ago (size 140/90/15). No rubbing, no cupping, not even half worn, improved the ride greatly especially over bumps. Sticks like glue to the road under all conditions and is especially good on dirt roads. The rpm is lower at highway speeds increasing the fuel economy (55mpg alone 50 mpg with my wife on the back). I’m a daily full time rider (passed 1,000,000 miles riding years ago) and would highly recommend this tire. J&P Cycles still sells these for about $80.00 (checked the price today) really great value.
Shinko WM SpecialShinkoShinko 110-80-17UnknownWM Douglas F. on the Facebook group said: The front is a little narrower and the back is a little wider. Handles pretty nice tho.
Shinko150-80-15Unknown
IRC Wild FlareIRCWF-920 120/80 R17Bias4,000+ milesOne PCer tried running this tire. He said it cupped very badly after a few thousand miles. Maybe with playing around with the pressure, it could be prevented from cupping out.
Full BoreFull Bore140/90 r15<unknown>8,000 milesI’ve only seen a report of one PCer using this tire.
Avon Roadrider AM26AvonRoadrider AM26 – 120/80V-17Bias40-41PSI20,000-24,000 miles
AvonRoadrider AM26 – 140/80-15Bias20,000-24,000 miles
Avon Venom AM42N/AN/AN/AN/AN/AA couple PCers are running this rear tire.

Dave Emailed me in July 2022 and stated: I do not recommend it. I have an Avon roadrider on the front and love the tire, so I assumed the Avon Venom would be good for the rear. Traction was not as good as the Bridgstone I took off. Tire only lasted about 5000 miles. Very disappointing and not the right tire for the bike.
AvonAvon Venom AM42 140/90H-15BiasUnknown
Dunlop Elite 4Dunlop120/90-17 M/C 64S (FRONT)UnknownUnknown
Dunlop120/90-17 M/C 64S (REAR)UknownUknownExpected 18k milesFrom David P: [These tires] did raise the bike up being 1″ larger diameter [than OEM], on the center stand the back tire just clears the ground. The guy that put these tires on has his own shop and was a mechanic and service manager of a Honda/Harley dealer for a long time, he said mileage should be about 18K.
Metzeler Roadtec 01Metzeler120/70-17 (front)UnknownUnknownUnknownFrom Dolf V.: Loving this tire. No modifications (on my 89)… I have an 880 on the rear… The roadtec 01 is a very nice neutral grippy modern tire.
. Just… Cause it’s a 70… It’s a tiny bit harder to put the bike on the centre stand.
“The Dark Side” – Car Tires on a PC800
BF Goodrich Radial Car TireBF GoodrichP155/80R15 TA RadialRadial34-35PSI20,000-30,000 milesUsing car tires on motorcycles is controversial but many people have been using them on PC800s. It can be difficult to find people who are willing to mount car tires on motorcycles. Often times, a Battleaxe tire is put on the front with this combination.
Editor’s note: These will absolutely not be a good idea on a 1989 model year with the smaller trunk liner.

A Note on Mixing and Matching Tires

Many PC800 riders have been mixing and matching brands of tires and types of tires for a number of years.  As of writing this, I have not personally received any reports of bad outcomes from mixing and matching tires.  The one issue that you may run into is different tire wear rates.  If you want to replace both tires at the same time like I do, you might end up throwing away one tire with a lot of life left on it to replace another tire that is at the end of its life.

While you generally won’t have an issue using a matched set of tires, it is possible that any set of tires (matched or not) might have issues.  It’s a good idea to take it easy for the first 100 or 200 miles as you break in new tires and understand how they perform.  Just make sure to take it easy and learn your new tires and you should be fine.

A Note on Mounting and Balancing Tires

There are two ways that I am aware of to balance motorcycle tires.  A shop can either do a static balance where they put the wheel and tire on an axle shaft and slowly spin it.  They change the weight balance by adding lead strips until the wheel and tire stop spinning randomly rather than at a specific (the heaviest) point on the wheel and tire.  The other way to balance a motorcycle wheel and tire is with a dynamic wheel balancer that spins the wheel and determines via a computer where to add the lead weights.  Almost ever car tire place balances using a dynamic balancer.

There are two other options for balancing tires that don’t involve using lead weights.  The first is using a liquid that goes inside the tire.  Robert C. from the PC800 Facebook group has been using Ride On Tire Protection System (TPS) liquid tire balancer for a number of years with good results.  This stuff is similar to the “slime” that you can get for bicycle tires.  Another option is balancing beads that also go inside the tire.  With both options, the balancing of the tire happens dynamically every time you start moving.  The force of the tire spinning causes the liquid or the solid beads to fling out to the edge of the tire and balance it.  I’ve driven 4×4 trucks that use balancing beads but never a motorcycle.  Below maybe 5 mph, the tires won’t be well balanced and you might feel just a little bit of lumpiness in the tires but after you get above about 5mph, the liquid or beads will spread out and your tires will be perfectly balanced.

I personally prefer to have my tires dynamically balanced.  However, a tire guy who knows what he is doing will balance a tire just as well with a static balancer.  If you’re doing your own tire changing, you also probably will be doing static balancing or maybe you’ll use a liquid or one of the solid bead options.

A good set of tires can even allow PC800s to tackle mild gravel roads.
A good set of tires can even allow PC800s to tackle mild gravel roads.

A Note on Valve Stems

It’s a good idea to change your valve stems when you change your tires.  Over time, the rubber on the OEM valve stems can get old and cracked, and eventually fail.  There are a number of options out there for new valve stems.  I personally am running OEM valve stems that I bought from a Honda motorcycle shop.  There are many PC800 riders who are running aluminum valve stems of several types.  Who is making what aluminum valve stem changes frequently enough that rather than try to include links to what people are using, all I can recommend is to ask your local motorcycle shop what will fit or do some searching on Google.

Another thing to consider is to keep a spare valve stem in your PC800’s trunk.  If you have a valve stem failure while you’re out riding, a motorcycle shop can quickly replace the valve stem but often times motorcycle shops won’t have a valve stem that fits our Honda Pacific Coasts.  I carry a spare valve stem with me at all times and, knock on wood, I haven’t had to use it yet.

A Note on Breaking in New Tires

While most new tires no longer have this issue, new tires sometimes can have a film of chemicals on the surface that is left over from the manufacturing process.  This can cause a bike to wash out from underneath you on the first corner you take on new tires.  One thing that some oldtimer motorcycle riders taught me when I was first starting out was to scuff up the new tire’s tread with a brick to make sure there isn’t any of the manufacturing chemicals on the tire treads.

Whether or not scuffing up new tires actually matters is still being argued on the internet and in biker bars all around the world.  Personally I still lightly scuff my new tires just to be safe.  However, I know some folks who ride their tires right out of the shop without even looking at the treads.

Whatever you do, follow the tire manufacturer’s break in procedures and whatever your motorcycle mechanic says to do. As tire manufacturers continue to improve their processes, the way tires are broken in will likely change.

Good tires should be able to handle torrential downpours with no problem. Riding gear might leak and leave you wet though!
Good tires should be able to handle torrential downpours with no problem. Riding gear might leak and leave you wet though!

Other Honda Pacific Coast PC800 Tire Resources

Clark Rice from the PC800 Facebook group put together a spreadsheet that includes a number of potential PC800 tire choices based on what is available on the market as of May 2018.  If you choose one of the tires on the list that isn’t in my spreadsheet above, PLEASE CONTACT ME AND LET ME KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS.  I will then put it on the list above.

Also if please contact me with any information you’d like me to include on that spreadsheet above.  I’m still looking for PSI information and mileage information on many tires, and I want your thoughts and feelings on the tires — especially if there’s anything that other PCers should know when they’re selecting a new tire.